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greengoblinrulz
05-10-2012, 01:31 PM
ESPN current park numbers (http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/parkfactor)cite as of today, Target field IS
6th in runs scored
19th in HRs
2nd in hits per
1st in doubles
2nd in triples

Jeff P
05-10-2012, 02:16 PM
Amazing what horrible pitching from the home team will do for a park's offensive statistics!

Home runs is the statistic that is most park dependent, I wonder how it ranks adjusting for Twins pitching.

Jeff

greengoblinrulz
05-10-2012, 05:57 PM
My take is if the visiting team is able to juice the ball here, no reason for the excuse making Twins to use the excuse.

Cody Christie
05-10-2012, 09:45 PM
I wonder how the Twins would do batting against their own pitching staff?

NorthwestTwinsFan
05-10-2012, 10:04 PM
I wonder how the Twins would do batting against their own pitching staff?

That would be an interesting matchup. They would probably still just hit comebackers to the mound though.

Alex
05-10-2012, 11:27 PM
Amazing what horrible pitching from the home team will do for a park's offensive statistics!

Home runs is the statistic that is most park dependent, I wonder how it ranks adjusting for Twins pitching.

Jeff


Or the lack of power in the Twins lineup? Both have to be accounted for and comparisons need to be made between how hitters perform there as well as at home (edit: and it appears they do). Willingham, for instance has almost all his HR at Target Field if I remember correctly. Point is, though I'll have to check how ESPN does it's calculations, any park at which the Twins take half the at bats, it's going to be low....

snepp
05-11-2012, 12:30 AM
Having a poor offense hit in a park won't necessarily drive a park factor down because they'll tend to hit poorly everywhere. The relationship between home and away production is the driving force, not the quality of the pitching/hitting.

Sample size is definitely a problem, even a full season isn't very good. 30 games? Pretty much useless.

Nick Nelson
05-11-2012, 01:18 AM
Having a poor offense hit in a park won't necessarily drive a park factor down because they'll tend to hit poorly everywhere. The relationship between home and away production is the driving force, not the quality of the pitching/hitting.

Sample size is definitely a problem, even a full season isn't very good. 30 games? Pretty much useless.
Snepp! Hadn't noticed you around here before. Welcome!

CharacterGroove
05-11-2012, 07:16 AM
Seems about right. There have been some pretty good hitting teams in the park versus some very marginal pitching.

powrwrap
05-11-2012, 12:23 PM
They would probably still just hit comebackers to the mound though.

Otherwise known as Revere-ing.

StormJH1
05-11-2012, 12:38 PM
Amazing what horrible pitching from the home team will do for a park's offensive statistics!

Home runs is the statistic that is most park dependent, I wonder how it ranks adjusting for Twins pitching.


Ha. Very true point (and one that always irks me about "park" factors). They should really only figure in visiting teams, and then compare it against other parks in that league. (There are probably stats that do this).

But while the Twins' pitching has been horrible, so has the Twins' offense, for the most part. So while are pitchers are serving it up for other hitters, our batters are also deflating those numbers because we have Carroll instead of Cano, Valencia instead of Freese, and Mauer instead of Wieters (ouch).

Also, the Twins are no longer a "left handed" team from a power standpoint, and I don't perceive this park being trouble for RH power hitters at all. Willingham certainly isn't struggling with it. And many of those early season numbers are suppressed by the cold, but we've had very good conditions in April and early May so far.

snepp
05-11-2012, 01:34 PM
Snepp! Hadn't noticed you around here before. Welcome!

I've been running in stealth mode (aka, trying to avoid arguments).

:p