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Seth Stohs
05-04-2012, 05:12 PM
Twins Lineup:

Denard Span CF
Jamey Carroll SS
Joe Mauer DH
Josh Willingham LF
Ryan Doumit RF
Danny Valencia 3B
Chris Parmelee 1B
Alexi Casilla 2B
Drew Butera C

SP: Carl Pavano

Seth Stohs
05-04-2012, 05:13 PM
Let the whining about Drew Butera getting to play commence, I guess!! :)

Rosterman
05-04-2012, 05:18 PM
Well, he might be a better defensive catcher that Doumit.

one_eyed_jack
05-04-2012, 05:23 PM
And he'll probably strike out less than Clete!

mike wants wins
05-04-2012, 05:31 PM
I doubt Plouffe ever gets enough at bats this year to get a good read on him. I don't get it, at this point....he should be in RF for a few weeks in a row. As for Butera, one start is ok, let's see how many he gets...

J-Dog Dungan
05-04-2012, 05:41 PM
With Willingham having come over from a team that plays the Mariners 18ish times a year, does anyone know his average against Vargas?

IronMike
05-04-2012, 06:41 PM
With Mauer, Doumit & Butera in the lineup I would feel a little safer if we had another catcher on the bench.

Thrylos
05-04-2012, 06:46 PM
With Willingham having come over from a team that plays the Mariners 18ish times a year, does anyone know his average against Vargas?

Hitless with one HBP in 12 PAs

Thrylos
05-04-2012, 06:49 PM
So basically the question that Gardy/Stevie had was Plouffe vs. Butera. Plouffe has .857 OPS vs Vargas and Buterror .283 (OPS not OBP or SLG). Both with 7 PAs. Well done! Someone should just DFA the guy, otherwise there is no way he does not play.

Also thought that Morney was available... Why not C Mauer and DH Morney. Tomorrow Komatchu will be around...

Ultima Ratio
05-04-2012, 07:02 PM
With Mauer, Doumit & Butera in the lineup I would feel a little safer if we had another catcher on the bench.

Bwahaaaaahaaaaa! Love it!

stringer bell
05-04-2012, 07:31 PM
So basically the question that Gardy/Stevie had was Plouffe vs. Butera. Plouffe has .857 OPS vs Vargas and Buterror .283 (OPS not OBP or SLG). Both with 7 PAs. Well done! Someone should just DFA the guy, otherwise there is no way he does not play.

Also thought that Morney was available... Why not C Mauer and DH Morney. Tomorrow Komatchu will be around...
Let's not forget that Pavano is pitching. He has always said that he like throwing to Butera. I don't know if Son of Sal can make his fastball zip a few more MPH, but if Butera is going to catch, today is probably the day.

Morneau has been out since Monday, will it be another several days? If so, maybe they should have DLed him. Mauer hasn't caught since Sunday--this to me is starting to sound like last year all over again..

minn55441
05-04-2012, 08:20 PM
So basically the question that Gardy/Stevie had was Plouffe vs. Butera. Plouffe has .857 OPS vs Vargas and Buterror .283 (OPS not OBP or SLG). Both with 7 PAs. Well done! Someone should just DFA the guy, otherwise there is no way he does not play.

Also thought that Morney was available... Why not C Mauer and DH Morney. Tomorrow Komatchu will be around...

I agree, this came down to Plouffe and Butera, Evidently Gardy was not happy with the play of select players, I guess Plouffe is now in the doghouse. How else do you explain this?

ashburyjohn
05-04-2012, 08:26 PM
Bwahaaaaahaaaaa! Love it!

Willingham is the emergency catcher. Oh, drat, he's in the lineup too. What will they do?????

ashburyjohn
05-04-2012, 08:29 PM
Morneau has been out since Monday, will it be another several days? If so, maybe they should have DLed him. Mauer hasn't caught since Sunday--this to me is starting to sound like last year all over again..

Morneau was "Friday at the earliest". It's Friday, I guess he's not quite right yet. Could well turn out to have been a mistake to not DL him; let's wait and see. Mauer took a foul off the knee and hasn't been behind the plate since; likewise, let's see if this drags on or if it's just another day or two, although the fact he's able to bat and run suggests it shouldn't be much longer.

Ultima Ratio
05-04-2012, 08:58 PM
Okay, going to be optimistic and call a 6-4 Twins victory with a 2 ER/7 IP quality start from the mustache, and Doumit as my pick to click (sorry) 2-5, 2B, 2 RBI, 2 R. Willingham solo homers.

Top Gun
05-04-2012, 09:01 PM
MLB.com's Brittany Ghiroli reports the Orioles plan to sign free agent 3B/SS Miguel Tejada if he can pass a Monday physical.

mikeee
05-04-2012, 09:47 PM
Drew has a wiff!!!!!

TwinVike61
05-04-2012, 09:48 PM
Was Butera's at-bat as bad as it looked on Gameday? 3 89 mph strikes in the wheel house without even a swing?

Ultima Ratio
05-04-2012, 09:48 PM
Butera's first AB? 3 pitches, 3 called strikes. Oh, the thick unsubtle irony (or is that anti-ironic?).

Scheherezade
05-04-2012, 09:49 PM
Butera showed some discipline at the plate. He took the first three pitches... for strikes.

mikeee
05-04-2012, 09:55 PM
let the whining about drew butera getting to play commence, i guess!! :)

you said he wouldn't get many at bats as a 3rd catcher!!!!!

twinswon1991
05-04-2012, 10:01 PM
The Twins are to only organization dense enough to give Butera at bats at ANY level. This guy should be employed at McDonalds and should not be allowed within 10 miles of a bat.

mikeee
05-04-2012, 10:09 PM
POP out for Butera on the first pitch.

mikeee
05-04-2012, 10:09 PM
If I were at the ballpark, I would have boo'ed.

mhanson93
05-04-2012, 10:16 PM
Well, now it's 1-0 Mariners. That should just about be enough run support to lock up the win for them. :mad:

Alex
05-04-2012, 10:24 PM
Had Valencia been on the bag, Carrol's diving stop would have been an out.

gil4
05-04-2012, 10:24 PM
Will the Twins ever score again? If the over/under is the 6th inning tomorrow, which do you take?

mikeee
05-04-2012, 10:27 PM
Will the Twins ever score again? If the over/under is the 6th inning tomorrow, which do you take?

The radio crew was trying to figure out what the record was for most innings without scoring.

asmus_ndsu
05-04-2012, 10:41 PM
The radio crew was trying to figure out what the record was for most innings without scoring.

The record for most consecutive innings shut out is 48 by the 1906 philadelphia A's and also the 69 cubs... Also the most games being shut-out consecutively is 4 which has been accomplished 11 times most recently by the same 69 cubs only reason there is so many innings is because i believe one of those shutouts went like 21 innings or something

mikeee
05-04-2012, 10:53 PM
Plouffe replaces Butera..

twinswon1991
05-04-2012, 10:54 PM
I wonder what the record is in the modern era (1980's to present). I would guess the Twins are very close to the record.

mikeee
05-04-2012, 10:56 PM
Plouffe draws the walk in a good at bat to load the bases for Span.

asmus_ndsu
05-04-2012, 10:57 PM
I wonder what the record is in the modern era (1980's to present). I would guess the Twins are very close to the record.

The 2007 braves almost hit the 4 game streak think they were the most recent and the closest to the record i believe, they were shutout 30 innings

mikeee
05-04-2012, 10:58 PM
Sounds like we lucked out and avoided the double play, with an error on the pitcher.

mikeee
05-04-2012, 10:58 PM
run scores.. the drought is over.

gil4
05-04-2012, 10:59 PM
In play, run(s)!!!

(Waiting to see what happened.)

Ultima Ratio
05-04-2012, 10:59 PM
Carroll hits a grand slam???

mikeee
05-04-2012, 11:01 PM
tie game. 2 out.

asmus_ndsu
05-04-2012, 11:03 PM
Well boys the runnless streak ended at 24 innings funny how the most fun weve had watching is seeing how long it would last

asmus_ndsu
05-04-2012, 11:04 PM
Oh by the way sano hit two more homeruns today one in each game of a double header...

mikeee
05-04-2012, 11:04 PM
Now to end the winless steak...
dang.. 1-9 in the last 10....

mikeee
05-04-2012, 11:05 PM
Mauer is going to walk again.

Ultima Ratio
05-04-2012, 11:07 PM
A lead? What's this? Kinda feels funny in my tummy.

asmus_ndsu
05-04-2012, 11:09 PM
A lead? What's this? Kinda feels funny in my tummy.

Probably gas

Ultima Ratio
05-04-2012, 11:22 PM
Great first reaction, angle and speed to get to that ball, Denard!

Ultima Ratio
05-04-2012, 11:36 PM
I know it's not going to happen, but I'd just assume they leave Perkins in to close, rather than risk it with Capps.

adjacent
05-04-2012, 11:37 PM
Wow, no chance with Perkins!

DrJubal
05-04-2012, 11:53 PM
Who are you - and what have you done with Matt Capps?

Montecore
05-04-2012, 11:53 PM
Jamey Carrrol is playing good ball. He must be close to leading the league in walks and his defense has been fine. I'd hold up on bringing up Dozier.

Ultima Ratio
05-04-2012, 11:55 PM
Just 10 more days and we'll get another one. Pitching was good, but offense is a scarcity: 5 hits in not gonna get it done most nights.

one_eyed_jack
05-04-2012, 11:55 PM
Hey how about that? A win! Not exactly a convincing win, but when you're this desperate for W's, you take them however you can get them.

Capps looked pretty good in the ninth. He keeps that up he may have some deadline value.

adjacent
05-04-2012, 11:55 PM
Well, our bullpen threw a no hitter.

nicksaviking
05-04-2012, 11:55 PM
Nice work Capps. It's all about building value at this point and that was a step in the right direction.

Ultima Ratio
05-04-2012, 11:55 PM
Jamey Carrrol is playing good ball. He must be close to leading the league in walks and his defense has been fine. I'd hold up on bringing up Dozier.
I agree with this. Definitely the player of the game tonight.

gil4
05-04-2012, 11:57 PM
I know it's not going to happen, but I'd just assume they leave Perkins in to close, rather than risk it with Capps.

With 5 lefties coming up in the next 6 batters, that wouldn't be fair. Better stick with the Proven CloserTM. (Yes, that was sarcasm - I agree completely, but but Capps took care of business faster than I could type.)

one_eyed_jack
05-05-2012, 12:05 AM
Countdown to the "see, I told you the team is better off without Gardenhire" posts in 5....4.....3....

jokin
05-05-2012, 12:11 AM
Countdown to the "see, I told you the team is better off without Gardenhire" posts in 5....4.....3....

Fine, but you will have to admit, Gardy wouldn't have had the "guts" to pinch hit Plouffe for Butera in the 7th, exposing the club w/o an emergency catcher or spare bench player...

Shane Wahl
05-05-2012, 12:30 AM
Butera will catch every time Pavano pitches. That's how stupid this season has become.

striker_86
05-05-2012, 12:41 AM
Mauer hit at 2 out go ahead single? Let the complaining begin that he didn't hit a home run there! Nice pitching by the bullpen to get the win!

glunn
05-05-2012, 02:40 AM
Countdown to the "see, I told you the team is better off without Gardenhire" posts in 5....4.....3....

If Twins sweep Seattle and then start losing again when Gardenhire returns, then it might make sense for Gardenhire to take some more vacations.

twinswon1991
05-05-2012, 08:36 AM
Before we heap praise on Ulger weneed to remember that the Twins are shut out once again if Wilhelmsen throws to the right base.

stringer bell
05-05-2012, 09:48 AM
There were encouraging signs in the Twins' victory. Duensing, Perkins and Capps completely shut down the Mariners in the late innings. There was good defense played--Carroll saved a run with a diving stop and Span made a nice catch in the gap--and the hitters had some good at-bats against the Seattle bullpen.

The offense is currently slumping and Doumit should have caught the last of the three doubles in the fifth inning. Drew Butera had two pitiable at-bats and a big hit could have broken open the game. For a day, at least, the positives won out.