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Identifying the Twins Most Tradable Asset

The trade deadline is upon us! While speculating who may come the Twins way, the question needs to be asked: Who could be leaving Minnesota?
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The trade deadline is just around the corner. While many of us thought it may ultimately be a quiet deadline there have already been some deals struck. Most notably may be Taijuan Walker being dealt to the Blue Jays from the Mariners.

Across Twins Daily there have recently been several good write ups about some targets the Twins could try and acquire. Here I will explore the players who have value as trade chips for the Twins during trade talks. This year's trade deadline guidelines read that only players in the 60-man player pool can be traded. That has created speculation that the most traded player this deadline may be the “PTBNL” creating a loophole and expanding teams tradable assets.

Simply for ease of speculation, here is a list of the five most valuable and/or tradable assets in the Twins 60-man player pool.

Eddie Rosario

Rosario’s name is no stranger to lists like these. There is also no denying that Rosario has been very valuable to the Twins in many ways this season. Time and time again we have seen him use his cannon to catch runners on the basepaths. He has also hit .241/.307/.457 with 7 home runs while bumping his walk rate up from 3.7% in 2019 to 8.7% in 2020.

If the Twins want to go get someone of higher impact at the deadline they will need to give up something of value. Rosario may represent the most replaceable piece on this squad as it stands currently. He would also be available to the team receiving him through next season as long as they want to pay his arbitration number.

Speaking of Rosario being replaceable...

The Big 3 Prospect Bats: Alex Kiriloff, Trevor Larnach, Brent Rooker

I am going to go ahead and treat these three prospects as a group. We as fans have already wondered out loud if Alex Kiriloff and Brent Rooker should be looked at to help jump start the Twins offense this season. They also represent players other teams would certainly be interested in.

Because Larnach and Kiriloff are widely regarded as the better two prospects, Rooker is the player that would be the easiest from the Twins stand point to let go. That is not a knock on what he has done since last season at Rochester he hit .281/.398/.535 with a .933 OPS in 65 games. For the right return, I am guessing any of these three can at least be discussed.

Lewis Thorpe

Something has happened to Thorpe. After looking like someone heading on the right track and the pick by many to be a breakout candidate for 2020. Things have not gone well for Thorpe.

In 14.2 innings this season, the Australian has a 6.14 ERA and has been hurt by the long ball boasting a 2.45 HR/9. While all the raw tools seem to be there for Thorpe there is just something missing and maybe another team sees the value and believes they can unlock it. While at the same time the Twins bolstering their roster for a playoff run.

Edwar Colina

I personally would be very shocked if Jhoan Duran or Jordan Balazovic (not in the 60-man pool) were traded at this deadline. Mainly because I just don’t know if there is going to be a big enough fish out there worth their value. Colina could be another arm that would entice teams. Not much unlike Brusdar Graterol this winter did.

Colina is big and thick and can pump the ball into home plate with triple digit velocity. Ultimately I hope he sticks around, but his velocity along with his 2.96 ERA and 9.4 K/9 may be something other teams would like in a trade package come the deadline. Also, since he seems to be slated to be a relief pitcher it makes seeing him go a bit easier to absorb.

The Back-end of the Roster

Welcome to the “not so sexy” portion of the list. My personal feeling is that there will be more trades like this than anything throughout this year’s deadline. These are all guys that can simply fill out the end of a major league team’s bench. Of course that is also fully based on the Twins also being fully healthy.

Ehire Adrianza has been valuable to the Twins over the past couple years, but with his ability to hit free agency coming up and with Marwin Gonzalez and Ildemaro Vargas on the roster if it fetches something he could be expendable. Nick Gordon has been in COVID limbo but he either could be one of the possible replacements for Adrianza on the Twins roster or even the trade market.

Jake Cave would fit mold as well. Not much different than when the Twins acquired him, Cave represents good defense (even with some glaringly bad ones mixed in) with a bat that can get real hot real quick. Depending on how depleted rosters become I even wonder if AAAA guys like Juan Graterol and Drew Maggi could even get asked about in cash deals like the Twins when they acquired Vargas.

What are some names you would be dangling that didn’t get mentioned? Do you even think the trade deadline will be an active one? Love to hear your thoughts and don’t forget to check out some of the pieces written about who the Twins could target.

4 Right-Handed Relievers to Target
4 Left-Handed Relievers to Target
The Case For and Against Lance Lynn
3 Bats to Target
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Trading Thorpe? Well, you might get some cash for him after he's DFA'd. 

 

I think the most tradeable asset is one of Kiriloff or Larnach. 

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jorgenswest
Aug 29 2020 06:09 PM

I would like to think that Rosario is a valuable trade asset but he just doesn’t have excess value beyond his contract with a boost coming next year in arbitration. He is likely more valuable this year than next. He could be a candidate for a deal to a contender similar to Lawton for Reed but those trade partners are hard to find.

 

 

Just to clear, the Twins biggest needs are getting their own guys back first and foremost. Honestly, a week from now, Pineda, Donaldson, Buxton, Garver, Stashak, Odorizzi and Littell back could jump start the entire team in various ways. Secondly, someone not named Cruz or Sano suddenly producing at the plate from the healthy bodies on hand would also help tremendously.

I still don't believe anyone, including the Twins, will pull off a MAJOR trade that produces headlines. But it doesn't mean you can't tweak the team.

I like Cave quite a bit as a 4th OF. He brings a lot to the table in that role. And I've been impressed by his defensive improvement. But his bat has been ice cold. I know he's been facing a lot of LH pitching of late, but he just looks lost. I think a veteran RH bat like Pillar makes so much sense, and should come cheap.

I don't think the Twins NEED another RP, but if they are going for it, then why not hedge your bets and make another inexpensive Dyson/Romo move like last year? There are various possibilities listed here on TD articles, and there have been package ideas floated on various sites about a package deal with Boston for a higher return.

Not sure any INF help is really needed if reports of Donaldson feeling good and about to join the team are true. But if there is a solid piece out there that can help, and maybe even has another year or two of control, it should at least be considered.

Again, I don't believe any WOW moves are coming in 2020 for anyone. And IMPO, I wouldn't look to trade anyone in the top 20 prospect wise. But I don't think you have to, unless there is a good package deal available. The system is deep enough to offer up some solid, lower level talent for improvement. Again think Dyson and Romo last year.

I think added depth and options are warranted. A spark is definitely needed. But I still don't see a top prospect trade for a difference maker WOW trade taking place. Doesn't mean you can't improve.
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Richard Swerdlick
Aug 29 2020 07:49 PM

If we can get someone at a position that we need, then I say, "Eddie, thank you for your service." If Kiriloff or Larnarch are good fielders then put em in left field. 

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ChrisKnutson
Aug 29 2020 07:50 PM
Of all our top tier prospects Larnach is the one that the FO is most willing to deal, although I don’t think that’s gonna happen this time around. When it come to the most realistically tradable player in the system I gotta go with Rooker since he’s an older prospect with no chance for playing time along with the presence of the universal DH, which should increase his value. If there’s ever a time to trade him it’s now.
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Probably you can get someone's medium quality reliever for Rooker. I don't know how to put together a bigger deal, that doesn't involve players I don't want to part with.

If they are watching this year's team we do not have any healthy trade candidates.Thorpe is a candidate for a DFA not a trade. 

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Nine of twelve
Aug 30 2020 07:42 AM

This season is unimportant. Do not make any trade for the purpose of winning this season. Do not make any trade that does not strengthen the organization. If you can fleece a team who wants to win this year take advantage of their stupidity.

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This season is unimportant. Do not make any trade for the purpose of winning this season. Do not make any trade that does not strengthen the organization. If you can fleece a team who wants to win this year take advantage of their stupidity.


I dont agree that "this season is unimportant."

Its much shorter, not less important. To me, anyway.
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jorgenswest
Aug 30 2020 08:27 AM

I do agree with the part about strengthen the organization. 
 

At this point a trade for a starter might get them 5 starts or a reliever might get them 10 or so innings. The playoffs are expanded making it even more difficult to get to the World Series. I would not trade a good prospect without getting a player who really impacts 2021 also. 

Our most tradeable assets are Cruz and Maeda.

FYI, players NOT on the 60-man roster can *not* be traded this year, per mlb.com, so Balazovic or Duran are safe, i.e. untradable, literally.

FYI, players NOT on the 60-man roster can *not* be traded this year, per mlb.com, so Balazovic or Duran are safe, i.e. untradable, literally.


First of all, Duran is in the 60 player pool; Balazovic isn’t.

Secondly, players not in the pool can be traded — they just can’t be officially named until after the season. There have been a few PTBNL trades around the league already — probably none so far will be at the level of Balazovic, but it is technically possible to move him.

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