• For Better or Worse: Eddie Rosario

    The Minnesota Twins Prospect Handbook 2013 is now available, and I’m happy to have it out there for people to order. It’s a great tool for learning more about over 150 players in the Twins farm system. One of the players who received an extra-long profile was Eddie Rosario. This morning, you will find out why the timing of today’s Eddie Rosario, For Better or Worse article is appropriate. Read the following and decide for yourself: Will Eddie Rosario be better or worse in 2013?

    2012 Recap

    When the Twins drafted Rosario in the third round of the 2010 draft, he was said to be the best bat from Puerto Rico that year. Since signing with the Twins, he has proven those people to be right.
    In 2011, he was the MVP of the Appalachian League. In 67 games, he hit .337/.397/.670 (1.068 OPS) with nine doubles, nine triples, 21 homers, 60 RBI and 17 stolen bases. Throughout the summer, it was a back-and-forth battle between Rosario and teammate Miguel Sano for the league leadership in home runs. Rosario won by just one homer.

    The ballparks are smaller in the Appy League than they are in the Midwest League. Some wondered if Rosario would be able to continue putting up those kind of power numbers in Beloit. Simply put, he is not the same type of power hitter as Miguel Sano. However, he is a much more well-rounded hitter than Sano. In 95 games with the Snappers, he hit .296/.345/.490 (.835 OPS) with a team-leading 32 doubles, four triples, 12 home runs and 780 RBI. Impressive extra base hit totals considering he missed just over a month after being hit by a line drive in the mouth during batting practice in early June. He stole 11 bases, but he was also caught 11 times. Something happened after his injury because he could not read pitchers and was thrown out a lot.

    Rosario made the transition from centerfield to second base. He is a terrific defensive centerfielder with good range and a very strong arm. The move to second base was not simple. When I saw him play in early June, he showed very little range and looked uncomfortable. When I saw him play in early August, he looked much more comfortable, turned a couple of double plays and did have some improved range.


    Photo by Jim Crikket

    This offseason, he has been very impressive in the Puerto Rican Winter League. In the regular season, he hit .338/.386/.496 (.882) with nine doubles and four home runs. In 31 playoff at bats, he has hit .290/.378/.581 (.0959) with a homer and nine RBI. He has primarily been playing in right field, although he has occasionally played more at second base. When he reports to spring training, he will be playing second base.

    However, his spring training plans will be somewhat altered as he will be named to the Puerto Rican team in the WBC today when the rosters are announced.


    Why He’ll Be Worse

    As was mentioned last week when we discussed Miguel Sano, Rosario will also be moving up a level to play in Ft. Myers. The Florida State League is more advanced than the Midwest League. The dimensions of the ballpark are even larger, matching big league ballparks since they are used for major league spring training. One thing to watch will be his walk rate. After walking 9.1% of his plate appearances in 2011, he walked just 7.2% of the time in 2012. He will also need to show that his second half base stealer drought was just a slump.

    Why He’ll Be Better

    First and foremost, he hopefully won’t miss a month in the middle of the season due to a fluke injury. His numbers were very strong, and he was fairly consistent, at Beloit. His strikeout rate actually dropped from 20% to 16%
    When watching him, I found myself comparing his stance and swing are very similar to that of Denard Span. He has very quick hands so he is able to watch the ball a little bit longer. He also does a great job of using the entire field. He was also able to avoid long slumps.

    So, which will it be? Will Eddie Rosario get better or worse in 2013? Let us know what you think.


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    This article was originally published in blog: For Better or Worse: Eddie Rosario started by Seth Stohs
    Comments 45 Comments
    1. Oldgoat_MN's Avatar
      Oldgoat_MN -
      Seth - is there a place where we can see all the For Better or Worse write-ups? These are all fun. Thanks
    1. Shane Wahl's Avatar
      Shane Wahl -
      The key is sticking at second base. If so, then he is a GREAT prospect because he is a great all-around hitter.
    1. Brock Beauchamp's Avatar
      Brock Beauchamp -
      Quote Originally Posted by Steve Lein View Post
      And as pure hitters go, I'll still take Arcia's bat over Eddie's for tops in the system.
      I was going to say the same thing.
    1. mnfanforlife's Avatar
      mnfanforlife -
      Quote Originally Posted by Steve Lein View Post
      Eddie won't put up the power Sano will. This was already demonstrated last year in Beloit (28 HR's vs 12 HR's). .
      OK? Then what was demonstrated in Elizabethton in 2011??

      Rosario hit more HR's than Sano, but Sano didn't get to play 30+ more games than Eddie in 2011.
    1. mnfanforlife's Avatar
      mnfanforlife -
      Quote Originally Posted by Brock Beauchamp View Post
      I was going to say the same thing.
      Rosario can run, stirkes out less. Arcia is a slower runner, strikes out more. Power numbers are similar. On-base numbers are similar. Both went nuts at ELZ, both will probably be above-average major league hitters. But Rosario has more upside with his speed and contact.
    1. mnfanforlife's Avatar
      mnfanforlife -
      Ok, I will be the optimist. Rosario will hit .315 with 25 HR's and 89 RBI's in A+ and AA combined next year. Sano stays in Ft. Myers til 2014.
    1. Steve Lein's Avatar
      Steve Lein -
      Quote Originally Posted by mnfanforlife View Post
      OK? Then what was demonstrated in Elizabethton in 2011??

      Rosario hit more HR's than Sano, but Sano didn't get to play 30+ more games than Eddie in 2011.
      That Rosario could match Sano's HR totals in smaller ballparks...

      Listen, Rosario is 6'0" (probably actually more like 5'10") 170-ish pounds, Sano is 6'3"+, 235+ lbs - that's a HUGE difference in muscle mass and power-profile-projection. Also, It's been witnessed by every scout on the planet that Sano can moonshot balls over fences, while Rosario get's his HR's in a more line-drive capacity. And finally, from day 1 of scouts watching them both play at Elizabethton, they said Rosario wouldn't be able to continue with monster HR totals as he moved up (and if Rosario was going to hit 16 more HR's in those 30 games, I'm pretty sure that would be some kind of record).

      While I don't think Sano's HR totals are going to be suppressed all that much by the Florida State League, I do think Rosario's will be, for all the reasons stated above.
    1. Steve Lein's Avatar
      Steve Lein -
      Quote Originally Posted by mnfanforlife View Post
      Ok, I will be the optimist. Rosario will hit .315 with 25 HR's and 89 RBI's in A+ and AA combined next year. Sano stays in Ft. Myers til 2014.
      If that happens, or people even thought it was possible, he'd be a top 10 prospect in all of baseball. But it's just not going to.
    1. nicksaviking's Avatar
      nicksaviking -
      And look at their eventual landing spot. Target Field thus far looks to be much more friendly to righties like Sano than it does to lefties like Rosario. A line drive hitter like Rosario is going to have difficulty with the RF porch, all he has to do is ask Justin Morneau.
    1. righty8383's Avatar
      righty8383 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Steve Lein View Post
      If that happens, or people even thought it was possible, he'd be a top 10 prospect in all of baseball. But it's just not going to.
      I would agree with most of what MNfan predicted except for the HR's. Part of the reason Rosario hit a bunch of HR's at Etown was because of the short RF. Down the line it is just 320 ft with an 8 ft wall. From what I've heard, a lot of his HR's were line drives that barely cleared the wall. In other words they would have been doubles or outs at other parks like Hammond stadium or New Britain stadium.
    1. Brock Beauchamp's Avatar
      Brock Beauchamp -
      Quote Originally Posted by mnfanforlife View Post
      Rosario can run, stirkes out less. Arcia is a slower runner, strikes out more. Power numbers are similar. On-base numbers are similar. Both went nuts at ELZ, both will probably be above-average major league hitters. But Rosario has more upside with his speed and contact.
      All true, but you're comparing a guy who has mashed AA hitting to a guy who hasn't made it out of low A and they're virtually the same age. There's a good chance we see Rosario's K total start rising as he faces good breaking pitches for the first time.

      And you don't need speed when you hit the ball harder and farther. Arcia does that.
    1. mnfanforlife's Avatar
      mnfanforlife -
      Thank you everyone...Some very interesting perspectives above. I can see how Sano's larger body size means more HR's in most peoples minds. And it sure showed by Sano hitting all those HR's last season while Rosario hit a bunch of doubles. Rosario could have come close to 20 HR's last year and surely would have totaled over 40 doubles, IF he had not been struck in the face with a baseball.

      So, I guess we can expect Rosario to be a doubles hitter moving forward. How bout a 3-hole hitter in Minnesota? Or would Arcia fit better in the 3, and Rosario hit 2nd? Sano is the 4-batter, right?
    1. Brock Beauchamp's Avatar
      Brock Beauchamp -
      Quote Originally Posted by mnfanforlife View Post
      So, I guess we can expect Rosario to be a doubles hitter moving forward. How bout a 3-hole hitter in Minnesota? Or would Arcia fit better in the 3, and Rosario hit 2nd? Sano is the 4-batter, right?
      In a perfect world, we'd see a lineup of Hicks/Rosario/Arcia/Sano. Of course, the team will still have Joe Mauer at that point.
    1. ThePuck's Avatar
      ThePuck -
      Quote Originally Posted by Brock Beauchamp View Post
      In a perfect world, we'd see a lineup of Hicks/Rosario/Arcia/Sano. Of course, the team will still have Joe Mauer at that point.
      yeah, and isn't THAT horrible... :-)
    1. mnfanforlife's Avatar
      mnfanforlife -
      Quote Originally Posted by Brock Beauchamp View Post
      In a perfect world, we'd see a lineup of Hicks/Rosario/Arcia/Sano. Of course, the team will still have Joe Mauer at that point.
      Dang, thats a pretty projectable group. All in MN by 2015? Mauer hits 5 with these guys? or Arcia?
    1. mnfanforlife's Avatar
      mnfanforlife -
      Quote Originally Posted by ThePuck View Post
      yeah, and isn't THAT horrible... :-)
      the best problem they'll have had in years
    1. ThePuck's Avatar
      ThePuck -
      Quote Originally Posted by mnfanforlife View Post
      Dang, thats a pretty projectable group. All in MN by 2015? Mauer hits 5 with these guys? or Arcia?
      Probably just bump Arcia to 4th and Sano to 5th
    1. mnfanforlife's Avatar
      mnfanforlife -
      Quote Originally Posted by ThePuck View Post
      Probably just bump Arcia to 4th and Sano to 5th
      How bout Mauer 3, Sano 4, Arcia 5
    1. ThePuck's Avatar
      ThePuck -
      Quote Originally Posted by mnfanforlife View Post
      How bout Mauer 3, Sano 4, Arcia 5
      For me, I'd go Mauer, Arcia, Sano. I think Arcia is a better OVERALL hitter (combination of Power, OBP and BA) than Sano, whereas Sano is more of a power guy. I like mostly power guys in the 5 spot.

      It's just a matter of preference...don't think Gardy could go wrong either way.
    1. Steve Lein's Avatar
      Steve Lein -
      Quote Originally Posted by mnfanforlife View Post
      So, I guess we can expect Rosario to be a doubles hitter moving forward. How bout a 3-hole hitter in Minnesota? Or would Arcia fit better in the 3, and Rosario hit 2nd? Sano is the 4-batter, right?
      Not sure he's quite a "3-hole" hitter either, at least not a typical one. He probably projects to have a good batting average, OK on-base percentage relative to his average (he hasn't shown much discipline yet), and a lot of doubles. I'd probably peg him in the 2-hole with his speed.

      I'd love to see a 2015 lineup of with the first six being: Hicks, Rosario, Mauer, Sano, Morneau, Arcia.
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